Why the hate for Mario Super Sluggers?
Friday, April 11th, 2008 at 6:10pm by Derek
Cammie Dunaway, Nintendo’s newly crowned Vice President of Sales and Marketing, yesterday announced Mario Super Sluggers, a Wii sequel to the successful 2005 GameCube title, Mario Superstar Baseball.
Any person qualified enough to take Reggie’s old job demands respect. Her words, dripping with delicious truth, ought not be disputed:
“We think (Mario Super Sluggers) is going to take these three wonderful areas of Mario, baseball and the unique capabilities of the Wii remote and bring them together in an exciting experience.”
Maybe I’m being overly optimistic, or maybe I’m referring to the precedent set by Mario’s countless successful sports endeavors prior, but what about this game doesn’t seem awesome so far?
Strangely, it seemed that before the details of the announcement could even be divulged, an online cadre of haters voiced their premature displeasure. Of course, the means varied; some made the familiar assertion that Nintendo is overusing Mario, while similarly oft-cited complaints were also expressed ad nauseam Internet-wide.
The prevailing view, however, was that Nintendo simply cannot pass on an opportunity to make a buck on the shoulders of its timeless Italian icon. “Eoco” over at OpinionDebug.com yesterday prompted Nintendo to “get some new ideas” in a post slamming the company for taking advantage of another “money-spinning opportunity.”
All of this cyber-hate, of course, without a single hands-on preview, let alone a release date. A tad premature, couldn’t you say?
We could speculate all day about things we don’t know; hell, some Web sites base their entire existence on doing so. But instead, let us look for a moment to relevant, tangible precedent through which we can reach some educated hypotheses regarding Mario Super Sluggers.
The original Mario Superstar Baseball was, above all else, an enjoyable arcade-like baseball experience. Sure it had flaws, but it was addictive and fun, particularly with friends. The controls were tight, particularly the batting mechanics, and like any great multiplayer Nintendo effort, they made it easy to pick up a controller and play. It had several different single and multiplayer modes, as well as countless baseball minigames. Considering how late it came in the GameCube timeline, Mario Superstar Baseball provided Nintendo loyalists a solid pre-Wii reason to keep fresh batteries in their Wavebirds.
Now, let’s be honest. For all the fun it had to offer, Mario Superstar Baseball also was hindered by some serious flaws. The fielding mechanics suffered in contrast to the superb pitching and batting, and some sort of stat-tracking application for the single-player season mode would have been a nice addition. But even the critic inside me couldn’t deny the pure fun factor inherent within Mario Superstar Baseball. As was the case with their kart-racing, tennis and golf experiences prior, Mario and friends were naturals on the diamond.
And hitting a towering homerun with Bowser to the quick rumble of the controller is about as satisfying a feeling as any GameCube sports game has to offer. So why the hate, guys?
(NOTE: And if you say it’s because you want “fresh, new franchises” on Wii instead of piles of Mario spin-offs, I demand to see UPC tags proving your purchases of Zack & Wiki, Elebits, Trauma Center, Geometry Wars, No More Heroes or at least two of the other fresh franchises released thus far on Wii. Otherwise, zip it.)
Sure, Mario is in a lot of different games spread across countless genres these days. But jaded accu$ations aside, his frequent appearances have just as much to do with the quality of his spin-off endeavors as their ridiculous profitability. As we embraced their faults, let’s be fair and accept their strengths; generally, the best Mario sports/racing games provide some of the most frantic, addictive and enjoyable multiplayer experiences Nintendo has to offer.
If it takes the best parts of its predecessor, makes some necessary adjustments and refines the solid swinging and pitching mechanics of Wii Sports, one could justifiably argue Super Mario Sluggers might well become one of the most enjoyable Wii games of 2008.
Haters, I respectfully call you out. What exactly is the problem?
April 11th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Let me preface this post by stating I’m a Nintendo fanman through and through. Also, I’ve bought Zak and Wiki, No More Heroes, Elebits, Dewy’s Adventure, Trauma Center, etc. and plan on buying Okami and maybe even Baroque if I can get the cash.
I’m tired of Nintendo banking on idols and nostalgia in their games. Smash is different, as the entire point is to be nostalgic and fanboy-gripping and for most of the Mario games (Party, the sports, the actual Mario games [including the Paper series]), it doesn’t particularly hurt anyone.
That being said, I’m tired of the same three titles being given to us again and again. That’s not to say I don’t love and play to death every Zelda, Mario and Metroid, but seriously…when was the last good Star Fox? F-Zero? Where the hell is my Pikmin? Animal Crossing? And for the love of all that is holy, what happened to Kirby and Pit?
I understand that wanting all of that in such a short time span is stupid. That’s not what I meant. Instead of giving me Mario Super Sluggers, why not tell me how Animal Crossing is going? Or how about Disaster?
I don’t need new IPs…I just need some of the forgotten ones to be freshened up.
April 11th, 2008 at 6:34 pm
Could it be the expanded audience? The huge number of people currently playing the wii has probably brought some people who were put off in the gamecube generation or might not be used to seeing the same characters in multiple titles. With the other consoles yes you get sequels but Master Cheif doesn’t appear in Xbox sports games. It might be that the idea seems strange to those who do not have experience playing the many (but usually pretty fun) Mario spinoffs. Just my thoughts on the matter. I for fun had great fun with the original and can’t wait to see this one hit. Nintendo is built on its classic franchises. I mean what would a Nintendo console be without Mario and the crew being thrown in wherever the opportunity is found?
April 11th, 2008 at 6:37 pm
Nintendo hate is quite in vogue right now. All teh h4rdcor3 g4m3rz that are miffed because the wii is trouncing everything and can’t wrap their heads around why bitch, incessantly about everything especially games that haven’t been released yet.
April 11th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I love baseball, but no “1 to 1″ batting….No thanks.
April 11th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
mooooooo
it’s b/c of the outstanding lack of variety from nintendo.
it’s nice to think the bashers are just bratty xxxgamerz who’s sense of self is too tied to their system’s commercial success, but in the end you’re prob going back to your wii to play mario smash basketball rpg galaxy.
Nintendo’s got talent. I’d love to see it directed new places.
April 11th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
I’ll take any mario game I can get,but I never really was much of a sports fan.Can’t wait until mario kart comes out!And when are they going to come out with a new Star Fox?!
April 11th, 2008 at 7:36 pm
The game is actually more fun that the real sport.
April 11th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I just plain don’t like baseball. But I might try this out, I won’t buy it, but I’ll rent it for sure.
April 11th, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Love the Mario series. Love my Wii. Don’t t’s not nintendo bashing.really love sports (except Mixed Martial Arts). But…it’s just like: “Mario??? Again???” The Wii’s been out for what about a 1.5 years (maybe a little on either side of that)? We’ve got Super Paper Mario (own, good game), Super Strikers Charged (haven’t played), Mario Party 8 (own, good game) Super Mario Galaxy (own, GREAT game), Smash Brothers (own, GREAT game) and now this? That’s six games (NOT including Mario Kart Wii) in
April 11th, 2008 at 8:40 pm
I’m just scared of baseball on the Wii. The first game I played, The Bigs, used a similar “just flick your remote to the base” fielding mechanic, and it SUCKS. Basically, I always threw home, even on a simple grounder. The “flick” should automatically go to the best base, not where ever the remote thinks we pointed it.
If they get the fielding down, then this game should be awesome. But I’m just scared of it being over-motion-y
April 11th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
“Mario’s COUNTLESS successful sports endeavors ”
That says it all right there, people. nicely said. I could not have put it better my self.
Mooooooooooooooooooooo. Oh, that cow must be so,so sore… Constant milking and all.
I think that with the Wii mote, this game COULD be a hell of a lot of fun.
But it is , yet again, another ” COUNTLESS Mario sport title…”
YAWN.
Has rent me written all over it.
moooooooooooooo
April 11th, 2008 at 9:10 pm
Probably because it seems like Nintendo gets praise no matter what it does and frankly the fanboyism over it gets pretty old. Nintendo is praised for having the “best franchises” and being so innovative and blah blah blah. Other consoles are crapped on, around here at least, for having the same stuff as last gen just “upgraded”. Well let’s see…we got a Zelda title, Mario platformer, and Metroid game. All great games but not exactly new ground. We get a “new” Wario Ware title, a “new” Mario Party title, a “new” Mario Strikers title, and now a “new” Mario Baseball title. And this is different how….because you can use a Wiimote? A Wiimote that hardly any game on the system utilizes very well (Wii Sports continues to be the best use of it) and something apparently even Nintendo themselves aren’t being able to utilize very well (try playing SSBB with the Wiimote; it sucks).
I love Nintendo, have since the original Donkey Kong, but this is hardly what I consider innovation. It’s more of the same, when in doubt put out another Mario spin-off. It will tide us all over until the next anticipated Mario Party title.
I’m with the others, can the Mario spin-offs and give us a GOOD new Star Fox game, or Donkey Kong, both of those franchises used to be top dog and are now a joke.
April 11th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
I love Wii sports, and this sounds kinda wii-sportsy, so I’m cool with it. I might not buy it, but I think it sounds great and pretty fun.
I actually loved that Wii sports made fielding automatic. I wonder if that will be an option in this game?
April 11th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
I think the argument here is not that they’re using mario characters, I can unerstan why people might not like that. It’s the fact that people are, in the end, upset about Nintendo making a baseball game. And what’s so wrong about that? I loved the baseball gameplay in Wii Sports and I think it’ll be interesting to see what they come up with. Nintendo puts a lot of effort on their in-house developed games. That’s because they first and foremost think of the gameplay first. But they also want the game to be succesful and reach as many people as possible. So who are they gonna use out of all their succesful franchises? Star Fox? Metroid? Of course not, those franchises are much more limited in the genres they can appear in. But Mario is different. It’s a rich, imaginative world with a huge cast of characters. the Mario franchise also reaches plenty of people that Nintendo’s other franchises don’t. Mario’s world is revisited over and over in many different ways because of it’s familiarity and uniqueness, it certainly isn’t a “money stamp” otherwise these games would be selling as well as Galaxy or NSMB. These games only reach those levels when the gameplay is there to match.
I guess the question I have is: what makes using a popular franchise more than other, less popular franchises such a bad thing to do for a company?
April 11th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Why the hate? - because it’s a p.o.s.
Why the 500 word essay for some s### title?
April 12th, 2008 at 12:08 am
because he is a fanBOY, that is why.
As this ” article” states … ” Countless” Mario spin offs…Y A W N
April 12th, 2008 at 12:45 am
FYI: As most of my articles suggest, I’m anything but a “fanboy.”
April 12th, 2008 at 1:12 am
you know, mario is getting overused quite a bit. we seen him in paper mario, mario galaxy, mario strikers, mario and sonic olympic games, mario party and now mario super sluggers on the wii. thats a lot of mario, no one can deny in a couple years. mario golf and mario tennis are staples that we can all expect will also come. but there is no denying that wii sports has got people hungry for more, but perhaps with a little more meat on it. and by featuring and concentrating on one sport they can give it to us. who wouldn’t want a standalone fleshed out tennis game? golf game? i didn’t include bowling because that one is pretty much perfect in my opinion. i have no problems with nintendo making sports games. but tell me this. now that they have mii’s, why don’t they use those instead of old tired mario characters. perhaps a cool idea for the newer nintendo sports games would be to just using the most popular mii’s on the check mii out channel. that would be a breath of fresh air.
April 12th, 2008 at 5:22 am
The best way to let Nintendo that we don’t care is NOT TO PUBLICISE these games. Just don’t give them the oxygen of publicity.
If they’re ignored, Nintendo will soon get the message that we’re not interested in this p.o.c. - and other games like this which stretch the Mario IP in ridiculous ways.
April 12th, 2008 at 7:08 am
I agree I’d rather see many other of Nintendo’s mascots given new titles, but there’s obviously a market for a baseball Wii game that isn’t being filled.
The Biggs wasn’t what people expected so hopefully this game will show everyone how baseball should be done. As long as the controls work well enough and, more importantly, is FUN then I see no problem with the game.
Just one complaint… why does DK use a stupid glove? Just give him a bat like everyone else
April 12th, 2008 at 9:22 am
Mario sports titles have become a series of their own to me. I don’t see the golf games as seperate from the tennis games, nor different from strikers, sluggers, or basketball. That’s why I don’t go “OMG, yet ANOTHER Mario game!!!” whenever one gets announced. I expect (and anticipate most of) them. I’m still wondering when we’ll get Mario Football (american), Mario Hockey, Mario Volleyball, etc.
April 12th, 2008 at 10:07 am
“All of this cyber-hate, of course, without a single hands-on preview, let alone a release date.”
Are you kidding? The internets don’t need to PLAY a game to hate it! C’mon, thats just silly to expect bloggers to actually TRY a game before they bash it. What do you think this is, 2001?
April 12th, 2008 at 11:14 am
I agree with most of what ResidentialEvil said. There doesn’t appear to anything new here, much like Super Mario Strikers this appears to be another GCN upgrade, milking the Mario characters just adds to the frustration. Other than the obvious reason to make money why does Nintendo consistenty rely on their mascot to move units. Why couldn’t they just make a generic baseball title?
I do think that the Mario, Metroid and Zelda main franchise titles do consistently innovate (although the next Zelda ought to be revisioned) through various gameplay features, reinventions and subtlities.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:42 am
Yeah Nintendo never comes out with new franchises like Battalion Wars, Professor Layton, Hotel Dusk, Miis, oh wait those are all Nintendo IPs. These titles also from what I understand did not preform well at retail. The fact is we are the vocal minority desiring new franchises. The masses that don’t read game blogs or reviews are uneasy spending money on unproven IPs. So what do we do bitch at Nintendo for reacting to the market. Furthermore some franchises I am not ready to put to bed I like Mario Kart and want more in that series. All we can do is show our support for new IPs out of Nintendo and not forget them when articles like this show up.
April 12th, 2008 at 11:53 am
are u a big baseball fan, Derek? i am. i love baseball. i kind of hope they fix the fielding controls and i hope they make it a little more aggressive. the pitching in wii sports is all the same, no matter what button you press its all the same pitches usually at all the same speeds. i really hope they change that in Sluggers. i hope buttons are different pitches and the speed vastly changes depending on how fast u flick the remote. and i hope for the hitting; if you swing at the right time and hard enough, u can blast it out of the ball park!
THAT would be an amazing game and probably THE most enjoyable game of 08, hands down
April 12th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
the more the merrier
April 12th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
@ Hunter- Layton was Level 5, Hotel Dusk was Cing, and Battallion was Kuju. Nintendo only published those. Not sure who owns the IPs though. Course, Nintendo has other independent studios develop its Mario and Zelda games as well, but I’m not sure we can credit ninny with initiating all those other great titles. Anyone know how it works?
Other than that, I think you’re right on. It’s a minority that wants original stuff. Mario sells big for the newbies.
April 12th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Well if you want to go down to the studio level very few publishers and platform holders will get to claim new IP. The fact is they did publish it and gets to be held as a player in its release. I know for a fact Battalion Wars belongs to the Big N lock stock and barrel. They merely had Kuju develop it for them as a console sibling to Advance Wars.
April 12th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
the hate is mostly coming from sony and ms fanboys just mad that mario titles are back to the top… sure i want new nintendo games but i know those are coming.
April 12th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
@ wiizy: I doubt most of the ppl who comment here @ INFENDO are MS and Sony Fanboys. There are a lot of Nintendo fans (myself included) who just think Mario is getting played out. I think it’s AWESOME that Super Paper Mario & Super Mario Galaxy did so well. I’m just not sure if all of Nintendo’s “big titles” need Mario in them, and right now, it feels like they do.
April 12th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
“We think (Mario Super Sluggers) is going to take these three horrid areas of ports, terrible — if any — online, and franchise-milking commonly found on the Wii and bring them together in a craptastic experience.”
April 12th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
how bout a mario 3 on 3 for wii?
April 12th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
When it comes classic nintendo character related games,I say the more the better. I cant wait for this game.
April 13th, 2008 at 6:59 am
Being European I really really don’t care at all =P
April 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
I love the sports games; no complaints here.
April 13th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
Here’s what happens in a nutshell:
1. Nintendo puts out Mario game
2. One or two thought leaders say “ANOTHER Mario game? Come on!”
3. The Internet creates a sensation as it becomes cool to mimic what “cool people” say (see also: Ron Paul)
4. Mario Baseball game goes on to sell millions of copies.
5. Repeat
If it’s a good game, it’s a good game. Why would the hell would Nintendo STOP selling Mario games, as people above suggest with their baseless, uneducated “more variety Nintendo!” complaints? Easy answer is they wouldn’t, and people will still buy these games into their millions.
April 13th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
I’m not sure I get it. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it or play it.
Nintendo obviously is rolling in it right around now, so they have plenty of money to spend on new IP as well as old.
April 14th, 2008 at 2:39 am
I’m not suggesting it isn’t good BUSINESS for the big N to do this, simply voicing my displeasure at the fact that there have already been SOOOOO many Mario games for the Wii since it’s launch. Plus, I’m not really a baseball fan either. Oh well, can’t win ‘em all. I guess it’s still 99% likely to be better than much of the shovelware being put out.
April 14th, 2008 at 7:49 am
As much as I love Mario, Zelda, and Metroid I would really like Nintendo to try and come up with a new franchise now and again. One of the last truly original new series was Pikmin on the GC, and that was years ago. I don’t mind these games, but try something else once in a while!
April 14th, 2008 at 8:19 am
@Axel,
“One of the last truly original new series was Pikmin on the GC”
You’re joking right?
Since Pikmin came out in 2001, Nintendo has published at least 15 original IP’s.
You’re either ignorant of their existance or simply ignoring them, but personally, I’ve gotten a lot of enjoyment out of the following Nintendo published IP’s (all since 2001).
ElectroPlankton
Wii-Sports/Play (2 games)
Nintendogs
Brain Age (2 games)
Odama
Battalion Wars (2 games)
Geist
Big Brain Academy (2 games)
Chibi-Robo (2 games)
Endless Ocean
Hotel Dusk
Polarium
Elite Beat Agents (2 games)
Eternal Darkness
Animal Crossing (2 games)
I would personally add games like Excite Truck simply because they are more of a spiritual successor than a sequel and are essentially an original title that’s just stealing an older namesake. Or games like Mario Strikers because they are essentially a new franchise even though they include Mario as a mascot. These are just the ones I can come up with, without doing any actual research, so I’m sure there are even more.
But yeah, all the people bitching that Nintendo does nothing new, really have no grounds for that argument.
April 14th, 2008 at 8:34 am
I dont mind MARIO games like Galaxy or Paper, but my experience with other Marios is they dont share the same quality, Strikers was fun until the gameplay turned repeative and not enough soccer fields, with party 8 I didnt bother buying or playing it, there was no improvement over the GCN version of 7 ….See what Paper Mario did was bring fresh gameplay from 2D to 3D and Galaxy its an animal of its own, while the rest dont bring nothing fresh to the table..
For me the best Marios are Galaxy (platforms), Paper, and Kart the rest are just trying to hard.
I like what Nintendo did with the Last Zelda, Link has grown up, it wasnt as happy colorfull cartoony it gave that dark,evel,realistic feel to the game and the gameplay is spot on.. But it was done with the Game Cube in mind which it wasnt bad at all, but, I expect more for the next Zelda with better texture and special effects as the Wii can handle that better.
Nintendos major caracters were big BLOCKBUSTERS hits with Galaxy,Twilight Princess and Corruption. I dont mind Nintendo bringing sequals of them… Now if Nintendo can revive Kirby, bring a Donkey Kong game,Animal Crossing,Star fox …and leave those sports and mini games in between big titles like those mention when theres droughts a of games ……heck , bring back Ice Climber as a new 2D scroll 3D platfomer..
April 14th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
this might be a pos or it might not. i don’t think everything is geared towards everyone and this is clearly geared towards mario fanatics, wii sports lovers or little kids. the wii sporters aren’t buying mario galaxy, brawl, kart, or party, but they’ve been waiting for another sports title that looks friendly and easy to use (which strikers does not look as easy to use compared to swinging a bat). also there are still a lot of little ones who aren’t sick and tired of another Mario game (this is their NES and their bucket why do you want to be Troy? we didn’t complain as children to see mario in everything: Punch Out, Super Mario Bros., the original Smash Bros., Donkey Kong, MarioKart, Dr. Mario, Mario Golf, and as long as their parents are still buying silly, cartoony, wholesome games for them get over it.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
@used cisco
Of all those games you listed how many are as good as Metorid 1, Zelda 1, and all those other classics that started franchises? Oh that’s right, none. Please cisco, you’re boring me, even the users at GameFAQs put up better arguments.
April 15th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
No, sorry dmnt, you fail. I think you can do better than a weak effort to redraw the argument with the hope that I won’t notice. Nobody mentioned “classics” as you say. He asked for something new and original, I simply pointed out there is plenty there that is new and original. He held up pikmin as an example and plenty of those games are just as enjoyable as pikmin. Nice try, but please, next time, try harder.
April 16th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
cisco,
“No, sorry dmnt, you fail. I think you can do better than a weak effort to redraw the argument with the hope that I won’t notice.”
In my eyes, I won. I set up a troll trap and you fell for it. They way I see it, I succeed by getting a response from you. Ever heard the term, ‘Don’t feed the troll?’ But thanks anyways for telling me that I could do better, because indeed I can.
“Nobody mentioned “classics” as you say. He asked for something new and original, I simply pointed out there is plenty there that is new and original.”
You fail so see that I was referring to those as classics. Tell me, does Excitetruck or Geist have the epicness of being a new franchise? One as big as Zelda? Or Metroid? Do you see my point now? While SOME of those games are worth playing, are they really, new mega franchise material? No, they’re not.
I do agree with you though that Axel was wrong when he said: “One of the last truly original new series was Pikmin on the GC,” But of course, maybe, he was referring to a good original game? Or a good original game that could start a franchise? That rules out all but three: Animal Crossing, Battalion Wars, and EBA. EBA is too niche though, Crossing isn’t the most appealing title, and Battalion Wars is already getting stale.
April 16th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Failure is funny to see, even when it’s a troll, so I appreciate your effort, sad as it may be. What’s even funnier though is to see someone claiming “victory” by trolling. I must have missed the day in school where they taught you that by saying ridiculous things and evoking a sensible response, you’re somehow doing something noteworthy. So kudos on that. You should be proud.
Point is still there.
There’s plenty of new and original content coming out of Nintendo. If you don’t like it, that’s fine. You have the right. I would personally say that I hope every single title in that list spawns at lease one sequel but that’s irrelevant to the point I’m making and you know it. So don’t try to remake Axel’s argument just so you can troll, it’s lame and you’ll fail.
April 17th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
My problem? Baseball sucks. All I want is a batting cage game with me actually hitting.
I like hitting the ball with the bat, I’m decent at fielding, but am no great nor even a potential great. The only times I’ve ever been interested in baseball games are Wii Sports (I bat, quit, repeat, I like the motion) and Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball. That game was said to have a very fast gameplay mode that got you hitting balls pretty quickly, apply the Wii sports control scheme and you have a winner for me.
I’m interested in MLB Power Pros, but I havn’t heard of many positive experiences with the motion sensing mode. Getting back to the game above, I don’t like how it looks either, and I’ll even make a stand and say I want more fresh sports experiences on the Wii and SSX sequels. You’ll have my upc codes soon:). I know you really weren’t serious, but I must do it anyway!
April 17th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
“Failure is funny to see, even when it’s a troll, so I appreciate your effort, sad as it may be.”
Thank you, I appreciate your gratitude; and the sad part too, because that’s true.
“What’s even funnier though is to see someone claiming “victory” by trolling. I must have missed the day in school where they taught you that by saying ridiculous things and evoking a sensible response, you’re somehow doing something noteworthy. So kudos on that. You should be proud.”
I am more than proud. You should know that I’m a /b/tard. Saying ridiculous things and evoking a sensible response is what I do. And I think it’s quite worth the time and effort. At least, more time and effort than fondling myself all day.
“Point is still there.”
In other words, the troll feeding continues.
“There’s plenty of new and original content coming out of Nintendo.”
The Virtual Console would like to have a word with you. Also, the phone is ringing. It seems all the rehashed games, and ports are on the phone, do you want me to hold?
“If you don’t like it, that’s fine. You have the right. I would personally say that I hope every single title in that list spawns at lease one sequel but that’s irrelevant to the point I’m making and you know it. So don’t try to remake Axel’s argument just so you can troll, it’s lame and you’ll fail.”
Wow was Geist, Nintendogs, and Excitetruck that amazing? Enough to get a sequel? And I’m not remaking his argument. Sure, he didn’t say a good original game, but there’s a good chance that that was what he was implying. Of course, we can ask him ourselves now:
Axel, if you’re reading this, were you implying a good original game or just an original game period?
Lastly, what you think about trolling is your opinion. I think it’s full of win, lulz, and once in a while some epicness.
April 17th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
“The Virtual Console would like to have a word with you.”
That’s rich, as if the point of the VC is to offer new original things. Again, you’re trying to steer a comment into a direction suits your rebuttal. Not uncommon for a common troll.
However, you even fail in that effort since odds are good that most people didn’t own all those old consoles so a lot of those classic are new to them. Personally, I didn’t own a genesis, so I’m loving all the “new” old games I’ve downloaded. So yeah, a little bit of fail syrup to drizzle over your ever growing hotstack of failcakes.
“Wow was Geist, Nintendogs, and Excitetruck that amazing? ”
Would I like a sequel to all those games? Unequivocally, yes.
Next question?
April 18th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
“That’s rich, as if the point of the VC is to offer new original things. Again, you’re trying to steer a comment into a direction suits your rebuttal. Not uncommon for a common troll.”
Or is it that you’re are steering around my point? I noticed you didn’t
mention all the ps2/ds ports, and rehash of games that I mentioned. Also, look at the VC’s prices — the blatantly ripped off. If you really want to replay Nintendo’s classics, just go EMU. Did you know that you can play Mario Kart 64 in HD, complete with save ghosts, and is online…all with just an emulator? Can the Wii’s VC do that? And you can tell me it’s bad morals, but you know…Nintendo has TONS OF MONEY. How about instead of them ripping us off, we rip them off? See what I am saying? Just like people should control their government, consumers should control their business, not the other way around.
Now where was I? Oh yes, back to your “original content” well, once again, you try to corner me by saying “Nintendo is coming out with original content prove me wrong!” But what’s this? I was talking about good original content coming out? As in, good enough to be greater than Metroid or Zelda? Clearly, I stated this way earlier. You have not proved me wrong here, only evaded my point.
And lastly, don’t try insulting me as a troll. Didn’t I already tell you I was? What is that going to do? Make you look more ignorant?
“However, you even fail in that effort since odds are good that most people didn’t own all those old consoles so a lot of those classic are new to them. Personally, I didn’t own a genesis, so I’m loving all the “new” old games I’ve downloaded. So yeah, a little bit of fail syrup to drizzle over your ever growing hotstack of failcakes.”
I just ranted over how overpriced the VC is. Nintendo is raping you up the ass right now as continue purchasing their rip-offs. I on the other hand prefer to play enhanced versions of old games that I payed for a long time ago for free. But enjoy your rape.
“So yeah, a little bit of fail syrup to drizzle over your ever growing hotstack of failcakes.”
Once again, you avoid my point. Didn’t I tell you that as long as you reply to me, I am winning? That is the sole definition of a troll, which, by the way, you have persecuted me as. It’s funny that you call me a troll, but you say that I fail. I recommend you take a course in internet 101 and learn exactly how to deal with trolls. Part one being, “Do Not Feed The Troll.”
“Would I like a sequel to all those games? Unequivocally, yes.”
I don’t consider lethargically coded piece of shits to be in the same line of games.
You have continuously avoided my points, the main one being: Nintendo has practically no good original games that have been developed in the past few years.
Before I close up my flaming, I’d like to reiterate what I said about how you bored me more than GameFAQs, actually you have been quite more enjoyable. I only said that so the chances of you falling into my trap would be greater. I’ve seen your type on places like Neogaf and Newgrounds all the time. You guys become irate so easily; it’s great. All I have to do is claim I’m superior to you and you’ll fall right into my trap.
Lastly, trolling is not just some lame pass time on the internet. It is a sport that equates to the likes of Boxing and a literary art form. People don’t see it now. But they will in time. Just like how everybody used to think Football and Baseball were children’s pass times (this was back in the late 1700s and early 1800s). But they will see differently as time goes by.
Anyways, unless you really come up with a good argument, this will be my last flaming.
April 18th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
“I noticed you didn’t
mention all the ps2/ds ports, and rehash of games that I mentioned.”
Um….that’s because we’re talking about games that NINTENDO puts out, not third parties.
You know, you’re not even a good troll. At least most trolls are able to keep track of the bait they initially tossed out. You can’t even seem to be able to do that. So, based on that, I won’t even bother reading the rest of your post. If you can’t keep your own trolling straight, then I can’t be bothered to point out your epic fail. Thanks. Have a great weekend, hopefully it has a little less fail in it.
April 19th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Aww, did the text wall scare you away? It’s too bad you didn’t read it, you might have learned something. Or did you read it, but you couldn’t think of a good away to reply to it? But that’s fine, it’s clear this thing is getting old on you, since you seem to have trouble keeping insults in your mouth, and you have trouble pointing out good trolls (any troll who gets continuous replies is a good troll). Of course, you can tell me how much I fail, but you have continued to argue/flame me all week. That’s pretty successful trolling is it not?
Anyways, on to disprove the only point that you could counter from my post.
“You know, you’re not even a good troll. At least most trolls are able to keep track of the bait they initially tossed out.”
Well, if I were you, I would not tell me what I’m keeping track of, when you haven’t even read my whole post. That’s like saying you know everything about politics when you have only the read one paper about them.
“Um….that’s because we’re talking about games that NINTENDO puts out, not third parties.”
Did you notice how I moved into a rant about Nintendo, and then returned to my original points at the end of the post? Wait…you didn’t read it, I guess your claims don’t matter.