Completely unexpected. As a fan, I get more giddy over the Metroid series than almost any other franchise in gaming, but I’m skeptical about this.
What makes Metroid so enjoyable is the atmosphere. The isolation, the utter sense of loneliness within vast, creepy alien worlds…that’s what makes the franchise so unique. The Prime trilogy may have changed the perspective, but until the third game scaled it back a bit, that spirit remained largely in tact.
I share your same sentiment Derek, but Team Ninja is working closely with Nintendo on this. Remember back when Retro was announced to make Metroid Prime. So much uproar from Metroid fans, but look how that turned out. Retro also worked closely with Nintendo who knows what makes a Metroid title. This is why I’m hopeful that the game will be amazing.
I haven’t been a big fan of this franchise. Besides super metroid on the snes and prime hunters for the DS, I’ve never been too interested in Metroid…until now!
That trailer kicked ass. They’re really bringing the action back to Metroid. We have action now, but we can force Ridlet to ground and shot him point blankk with as much satisfaction as you can those generic things in the trailer.
also, I’m loving the new Samus model. She looks much more mature and actually doesn’t look bad with slightly larger breasts.
Probably doesnt mean anything, but if you look at the missile and energy count in the HUD, it says 3 and 25, then the year 2010. Any chance of this coming out March 25th, 2010. Probably not, but that would be nice.
Hmmm…well I can’t say that this looks bad by any means, but I must say, I have this nagging doubt that this is going to be A LOT more linear than Metroid has been before, seeing as how the focus is on action this time around. Still, it’s Metroid, so I have my hopes up.
The Prime series blows, first-person shooters generally suck, and this rocks. Period. This is exactly how Metroid should have been done on the Gamecube back in 2002. 3D, and with all the moves from Super Metroid intact. Imagine that! A Metroid game that doesn’t borrow heavily from cliched first-person shooters, AND also manages to include speed boosting!
The Prime series certainly does NOT blow! Millions of satisfied customers say otherwise. Metroid = awesome!
Now on to Other M. I am so stoked over this! I have no reservations about this game at all. I will just wait with confidence that Nintendo/TN will deliver an awesome title. You all know I could go on and on about Metroid. (refer to the Klonoa constest) hehe! For now I’m going to shut up and watch the trailer over and over again!
Man I am REALLY pissed right now. I hate having to change my pants more than once a day. Sure, the whole new Metroid thing was great, but COME ON!! A guy can only wet himself out of awesomeness once a day!
And I’ll bet you that the majority out of those millions of satisfied customers think that the Prime series were by far the best thing to ever happen to Metroid….which is dumb, because the Prime series completely butchers Samus’ move set just to make the game work in first person.
No offense, but I’m a Metroid fan. I’m not saying you’re not a Metroid fan because you like the Prime games, I’m saying that I am a Metroid fan and that is why I dislike the Prime games. Countless times I’ve heard people try to justify the first-person view in the Prime games by throwing words like “immersive” around. But as someone who enjoyed the first three games (you know, the ones that were actually made by Samus’ Japanese creators) plus Fusion immensely, I couldn’t get past the fact that in the Prime series
1. Samus can’t run.
2. Samus does not somersault when she jumps.
3. Samus cannot properly wall-jump.
4. Samus cannot duck.
5. Samus is limited to two mid-air jumps with the Space Jump boots.
In Metroid 2 and Super Metroid the jumps were only limited by whatever barriers Nintendo put to prevent you from getting higher/
6. Samus cannot speed boost (see 1.)
Prime fans act as if these are petty complaints….as if none of these things were representative of the Metroid “feel”. But as anyone who enjoyed the first three games can tell you, Metroid is about more than exploration and a feeling of isolation—if those were the only requirements, then Retro Studios would have passed with flying colors. The problem is, Samus movement is based almost entirely on very physical, acrobatic movement involving lots of jumping and mid-air turnarounds. This is impossible to achieve in a first-person game, which is why a proper conversion of the classic Metroid gameplay would have to be in third-person! Unfortunately, the Prime series ended up selling well despite these flaws. I’ll admit it, they were some fun games! But none of the Prime games will come close to capturing the Metroid feel that I have a feeling this new game will. This looks like the kind of 2D Metroid action I grew up with rendered in 3D. And that is something to be excited for.
6. Samus CAN Speed Boost, and it’s a lot more kickass in Prime ’cause you get to ride half-pipes!
Anyway.
This game confirms that Samus can talk, too. And she has clones. And she has a new suit. And it’s after Fusion, because Adam Malkovich is in it and Samus’s suit is restored. And is that black dude Sylux, d’you think?
Samus cannot, in fact, run. If by running you mean that speed she walks at when you push the analog stick all the way forward, then yeah. But I mean running. See Super Metroid for details.
And if you’re talking about that silly little move where you can give yourself a boost while in morphball mode, I’m sorry to break it to you but that is not speed boosting. Have you even played Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion?
Again, it’s like I said, some people just want to deny little things like aerial somersaults, wall kicking, and ducking just weren’t as easy to achieve in first-person, which is why Retro Studios, for the most part, left them out. Other than the morph ball mode, there is sadly nothing that separates Samus’ movement in Metroid Prime from feeling like any other first person game. There is no agility, no gymnastics, no Samus. Just an on-screen floating gun (but OMG TEH VISOR MAKS IT MOAR IMMERSIVE!).
Give Ocarina of time an overhead perspective and you have a classic 2D Zelda game but with 360 movement.
Give Super Mario 64 a 2D perspective and it becomes classic Mario gameplay with an analog stick.
Give Metroid Prime a 2D perspective and you have a slower, floaty-movement Samus who can’t do aerial somersaults, duck, run, or any of her defining movements other than basic shooting and morph ball mode.
I’m not going to stick around all night arguing the obvious with people—the Metroid Prime games were fun, and each one had it’s spooky moments of isolation, but Samus’ graceful movements did not faithfully transfer into 3D (much like Sonic’s control of speed did not in any of the post-Adventure games). This is entirely due to the misguided decision to not make the games third-person, which is why I am thrilled that The Other M is.
Indeed, they weren’t the Star Wars prequels. Prime is a good spin-off series….the games were definitely well made, I just don’t like them because
A) Each installment is inserted between Metroid and Metroid 2, which sort of ruined the sense of direct continuity in my opinion. I felt like they sort of raped the continuity of the series by having these games in which Samus paraded around in very ugly, uninspired suits fighting Space Pirates that don’t really look like Space Pirates (to me, at least).
B) The other issues I mentioned before. It’s great for a spin-off series, just don’t say Metroid is better that way, because it would be like saying all future Zelda games should be handheld and controlled with the stylus…it wouldn’t feel like Zelda, and you’d start to miss the kind of feeling that could be felt when you directly controlled Link’s movements using buttons. That is sort of how I feel about the Prime series being perceived as having had taken the series to the next level. It didn’t really take it to the next level–it took it to a completely different arena, which is why I don’t like to consider any of them to be the true heir to the Yokoi Metroid legacy/
i do love myself some team ninja- ninja gaiden black was a treat. wonder if they’ll scale back the difficulty for the wii audience… hope not. this could be a killer hardcore game.
I’m so hyped about this. I am so glad they are making it an actual action title instead of a “let’s-spend-2-hours-opening-a-door-and-backtracking” game.
this is what Metroid needs to be popular again. Ditch the slow, confusing, meandering and archaic gameplay for real action.
It’s before Fusion (unless it’s a flashback scene) because Malkovich is dead before Fusion began. This game could tell us how Malkovich died and how Samus first met him.
…hrrmm…… ok, so I was often wondering where they could take Samus next in terms of gameplay, and boy is this a great answer. With Team Ninja at the helm and Nintendo’s finest looking over their shoulder… this really has the potential to be the next Super Metroid in terms of game quality, a system defining game.
How dare you talk about Metroid Fusion to ME! I played through it and beat it FOUR TIMES. I am happy about any Metroid game.
And if you notice, Samus can move at walking speed by a light tilt of the Control Stick, and runs with a full tilt.
The Speed Boost returns to Prime as the Boost Ball.
And honestly, the Prime series was frickin’ incredible. The only problem I had was Samus couldn’t grip ledges. The things you say were problems, couldn’t be done in 3-D first person, except for maybe the crouching. And I want this fucking game!!
And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.
Wow, Wasn’t expecting this.
The original game play is returning and the first Metroid game i played was Prime 1 and i have played all the metroid games before and after that. The Metroid games rock.
That preview had a lot of action and there are voices, ……I Want this!!!
The things you say were problems, couldn’t be done in 3-D first person, except for maybe the crouching.
And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.
Umm….yeah, I’ve sort of been saying that since the first comment!
I honest don’t care whether you like the 2D or 3D Metroid games more, I’m just calling the Prime games flawed Metroid experience, no matter how fun they may be, because it’s impossible to capture the kind of movement experienced in Metroids 1-4 in a first-person game. But hand the series over to an inexperienced bunch of redneck American game developers and of course they’ll want to make it a first person game. You ever play Jet Force Gemini? It was a nice little third-person shooter made by Rare for the Nintendo 64. That, to me, played more like a 3D Metroid game should than the Prime series.
Metroid does rock all around, but it rocks a lot more when it is made by experienced Japanese developers who are most likely given access to character bibles, reference sheets, etc., without having to have middlemen translated messages to and from Nintendo Co. Ltd for them.
I like my Metroid done right, and it doesn’t get more right then 2D action made in Nintendo’s own country.
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 am
Metroid does rock all around, but it rocks a lot more when it is made by experienced Japanese developers who are most likely given access to character bibles, reference sheets, etc., without having to have middlemen translated messages to and from Nintendo Co. Ltd for them.
I like my Metroid done right, and it doesn’t get more right then 2D action made in Nintendo’s own country.”
*snickers, gives applause*
So true it’s funny as hell! But the bit below makes no sense.
“Give Metroid Prime a 2D perspective and you have a slower, floaty-movement Samus who can’t do aerial somersaults, duck, run, or any of her defining movements other than basic shooting and morph ball mode.” -Poochy
“And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.”- Lite
“Umm….yeah, I’ve sort of been saying that since the first comment!” -Poochy
“And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.â€
Makes it sound as if you mean to say those things would come back automatically, as if they are already present in some 3D form. I meant if you took the Prime series as-is and put it into 2D Samus wouldn’t move around with the gymnastic agility of the other 2D Metroid games. I mean imagine Samus, the way the character walks in Prime, walking and jumping that way in 2D. It wouldn’t be pretty: for one thing, she’d be a bit slower (I still doesn’t consider that running Metroid Prime) than in Super Metroid, certainly a lot slower than in Metroid: Zero Mission (which is supposed to take place immediately before Metroid Prime), and she wouldn’t being doing aerial somersaults. In fact, Samus doesn’t even really buckle her knees or crouch or anything before jumping in Prime, she just jumps point blank as if jumping that high is easy. Not to say that’s a mistake Retro Studios made, just a limitation of the first-person camera angle.
Also, when it shows 2010 at the end of the trailer, the missiles/super missiles above read “3 25″. Am I overanalyzing, or could be Nintendo hinting at a potential release date for the game?
But… but… Samus isn’t supposed to talk! WTF!? I got a little annoyed at SSBB for making her talk and now this? It’s like making Kirby or Link speak a full sentence, it’s just not right!
Out of all the new Gametrailers for the Wii this title gets the most comments. No Doubt that Metriod Rocks.
I was completely surprised by this new game and I really hope the overanalyzing pays off for a March 25 2010 release. I really dont care what style of gameplay goes into a Metriod game, I still love the series and have played all of them to date. I am also currently excited for Metriod Trilogy for the Wii. It will be fun to play the first two from Gamecube with the Wii controls and the revised HD support. I hope they will put some additional goodies in this as well
Hey buddy, calm down. You’re lambasting the Prime series because it doesn’t do things that you could previously do in the series. Let’s get this straight. What you’re really comparing the Prime games to is Super Metroid. If you are a true Metroid fan, you’d know that that is the only game that came BEFORE the Primes that had any of what you’re talking about. Fusion was released side by side with Prime. So, lets see, the original Metroid, you couldn’t crouch or run and you could only shoot straight up and in front of you. Wow, thats so much better than the Prime games on every level.
Metroid II, hmm, still no running, but now you can crouch! Lightyears ahead of Prime in every way.
Then we come to Metroid 3. Good game. Arguably the best Metroid game ever made, personally, Zero Mission is my favorite, but there’s no need to argue about it. The Prime’s are all frigin’ awesome, and they are undeniably Metroid games. They don’t break cannon in any way. So what if they don’t have ALL of the moves that were present in ONE game prior, the Prime games flesh out the series a heck of a lot more than that one game.
poochy should get over himself. ok mister one up’s man. you are the biggest metroid fan out there and know exactly what everyone wants or needs in a metroid game. you are smarter than nintendo and the game developers and your metroid cartridges and discs were the first off the assembly line signed by shiggy himself. you’re the best fan ever and you’re right metroid prime sucks and they should write you an apology and give you first hands on when this comes out because this is a real metroid title because you say so.
So what if they don’t have ALL of the moves that were present in ONE game prior, the Prime games flesh out the series a heck of a lot more than that one game.
You’re misunderstanding what I wrote. It’s not that they took away all the moves….the problem is Samus’ movement itself is nothing like the 2D games. 3D Mario, 3D Link, and 3D Sonic all move like their 2D counterparts, which is why the initial 3D outings for those characters were successful. In fact, in the case of Mario and Sonic they actually added to these character’s move sets.
OK, I get it, you’re a huge Prime fan. But saying moves don’t matter and that the Prime games feel just as much like Metroid is silly. Movement DOES matter in a video game; I’m sure you could ask any developer that and they’ll agree with me. There is a sense of agile movement that is impossible to express in bland, generic 1st person 3D, which is why Retro Studios should have made the games 3rd person.
@ Lord Toker:
poochy should get over himself. ok mister one up’s man. you are the biggest metroid fan out there and know exactly what everyone wants or needs in a metroid game. you are smarter than nintendo and the game developers and your metroid cartridges and discs were the first off the assembly line signed by shiggy himself. you’re the best fan ever and you’re right metroid prime sucks and they should write you an apology and give you first hands on when this comes out because this is a real metroid title because you say so.
Weak. This just goes to show that you didn’t really any of my posts.
It’s easy to go to to anyone with a dissenting viewpoint and say they need to get over themselves, but if you actually used your brain like the rest of these people have to try to understand where I’m coming from maybe you wouldn’t come off sounding like such as a douchebag.
Look everybody. Poochy there was just trying to say to me that removing all the things Samus is famous for from the Prime games made it a little less…Metroid for him, although he doesn’t deny that the games were in fact good. I was just saying that she CAN RUN! And Boost. And I understand where he’s coming from.
Personally, though, I have an equal amount of fun playing Prime Hunters and Fusion.
your first post makes you sound like a douche yourself.
“The Prime series blows, first-person shooters generally suck, and this rocks. Period. This is exactly how Metroid should have been done on the Gamecube back in 2002. 3D, and with all the moves from Super Metroid intact. Imagine that! A Metroid game that doesn’t borrow heavily from cliched first-person shooters, AND also manages to include speed boosting!”
if that’s not inviting confrontation i don’t know what is. obviously my sarcastic tone hit a nerve with you as it pointed out that you have your opinion and others have theirs, but you come off condescending to everyone else who may have enjoyed the series. you are not right because you’ve decided to write a bunch of drivel that backs up your opinion and no one else’s point of view matters to you. so why should i care what you think, so like i said you’re a mister one up’s man. have a good day
Don’t think anyone was expecting this which made it all the better, but 2010…I’m going to have to cryogenically freeze myself until then.
Completely unexpected. As a fan, I get more giddy over the Metroid series than almost any other franchise in gaming, but I’m skeptical about this.
What makes Metroid so enjoyable is the atmosphere. The isolation, the utter sense of loneliness within vast, creepy alien worlds…that’s what makes the franchise so unique. The Prime trilogy may have changed the perspective, but until the third game scaled it back a bit, that spirit remained largely in tact.
I hope Other M stays faithful to that spirit.
I share your same sentiment Derek, but Team Ninja is working closely with Nintendo on this. Remember back when Retro was announced to make Metroid Prime. So much uproar from Metroid fans, but look how that turned out. Retro also worked closely with Nintendo who knows what makes a Metroid title. This is why I’m hopeful that the game will be amazing.
I haven’t been a big fan of this franchise. Besides super metroid on the snes and prime hunters for the DS, I’ve never been too interested in Metroid…until now!
The trailer looks awesome.
That trailer kicked ass. They’re really bringing the action back to Metroid. We have action now, but we can force Ridlet to ground and shot him point blankk with as much satisfaction as you can those generic things in the trailer.
also, I’m loving the new Samus model. She looks much more mature and actually doesn’t look bad with slightly larger breasts.
Probably doesnt mean anything, but if you look at the missile and energy count in the HUD, it says 3 and 25, then the year 2010. Any chance of this coming out March 25th, 2010. Probably not, but that would be nice.
Hmmm…well I can’t say that this looks bad by any means, but I must say, I have this nagging doubt that this is going to be A LOT more linear than Metroid has been before, seeing as how the focus is on action this time around. Still, it’s Metroid, so I have my hopes up.
The Prime series blows, first-person shooters generally suck, and this rocks. Period. This is exactly how Metroid should have been done on the Gamecube back in 2002. 3D, and with all the moves from Super Metroid intact. Imagine that! A Metroid game that doesn’t borrow heavily from cliched first-person shooters, AND also manages to include speed boosting!
Whoa…
Exactly!
The Prime series certainly does NOT blow! Millions of satisfied customers say otherwise. Metroid = awesome!
Now on to Other M. I am so stoked over this! I have no reservations about this game at all. I will just wait with confidence that Nintendo/TN will deliver an awesome title. You all know I could go on and on about Metroid. (refer to the Klonoa constest) hehe! For now I’m going to shut up and watch the trailer over and over again!
Go Nintendo!!!
Man I am REALLY pissed right now. I hate having to change my pants more than once a day. Sure, the whole new Metroid thing was great, but COME ON!! A guy can only wet himself out of awesomeness once a day!
@ Brian:
And I’ll bet you that the majority out of those millions of satisfied customers think that the Prime series were by far the best thing to ever happen to Metroid….which is dumb, because the Prime series completely butchers Samus’ move set just to make the game work in first person.
No offense, but I’m a Metroid fan. I’m not saying you’re not a Metroid fan because you like the Prime games, I’m saying that I am a Metroid fan and that is why I dislike the Prime games. Countless times I’ve heard people try to justify the first-person view in the Prime games by throwing words like “immersive” around. But as someone who enjoyed the first three games (you know, the ones that were actually made by Samus’ Japanese creators) plus Fusion immensely, I couldn’t get past the fact that in the Prime series
1. Samus can’t run.
2. Samus does not somersault when she jumps.
3. Samus cannot properly wall-jump.
4. Samus cannot duck.
5. Samus is limited to two mid-air jumps with the Space Jump boots.
In Metroid 2 and Super Metroid the jumps were only limited by whatever barriers Nintendo put to prevent you from getting higher/
6. Samus cannot speed boost (see 1.)
Prime fans act as if these are petty complaints….as if none of these things were representative of the Metroid “feel”. But as anyone who enjoyed the first three games can tell you, Metroid is about more than exploration and a feeling of isolation—if those were the only requirements, then Retro Studios would have passed with flying colors. The problem is, Samus movement is based almost entirely on very physical, acrobatic movement involving lots of jumping and mid-air turnarounds. This is impossible to achieve in a first-person game, which is why a proper conversion of the classic Metroid gameplay would have to be in third-person! Unfortunately, the Prime series ended up selling well despite these flaws. I’ll admit it, they were some fun games! But none of the Prime games will come close to capturing the Metroid feel that I have a feeling this new game will. This looks like the kind of 2D Metroid action I grew up with rendered in 3D. And that is something to be excited for.
@ Poochy:
Oh, come ON!
1. Samus can, in fact, run.
6. Samus CAN Speed Boost, and it’s a lot more kickass in Prime ’cause you get to ride half-pipes!
Anyway.
This game confirms that Samus can talk, too. And she has clones. And she has a new suit. And it’s after Fusion, because Adam Malkovich is in it and Samus’s suit is restored. And is that black dude Sylux, d’you think?
@Poochy
I don’t try to justify anything. It’s just fun as hell and very cool. That is all!
Guess what? I love all the other Metroid games to. Ooo surprise!
Now go give Samus a Smoochy.
and it’s not like the Prime games were the Star Wars prequels or something… (talk about justify)
@ Lite:
Great, another Metroid fan deluding himself.
Samus cannot, in fact, run. If by running you mean that speed she walks at when you push the analog stick all the way forward, then yeah. But I mean running. See Super Metroid for details.
And if you’re talking about that silly little move where you can give yourself a boost while in morphball mode, I’m sorry to break it to you but that is not speed boosting. Have you even played Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion?
Again, it’s like I said, some people just want to deny little things like aerial somersaults, wall kicking, and ducking just weren’t as easy to achieve in first-person, which is why Retro Studios, for the most part, left them out. Other than the morph ball mode, there is sadly nothing that separates Samus’ movement in Metroid Prime from feeling like any other first person game. There is no agility, no gymnastics, no Samus. Just an on-screen floating gun (but OMG TEH VISOR MAKS IT MOAR IMMERSIVE!).
Give Ocarina of time an overhead perspective and you have a classic 2D Zelda game but with 360 movement.
Give Super Mario 64 a 2D perspective and it becomes classic Mario gameplay with an analog stick.
Give Metroid Prime a 2D perspective and you have a slower, floaty-movement Samus who can’t do aerial somersaults, duck, run, or any of her defining movements other than basic shooting and morph ball mode.
I’m not going to stick around all night arguing the obvious with people—the Metroid Prime games were fun, and each one had it’s spooky moments of isolation, but Samus’ graceful movements did not faithfully transfer into 3D (much like Sonic’s control of speed did not in any of the post-Adventure games). This is entirely due to the misguided decision to not make the games third-person, which is why I am thrilled that The Other M is.
@ Brian:
Indeed, they weren’t the Star Wars prequels. Prime is a good spin-off series….the games were definitely well made, I just don’t like them because
A) Each installment is inserted between Metroid and Metroid 2, which sort of ruined the sense of direct continuity in my opinion. I felt like they sort of raped the continuity of the series by having these games in which Samus paraded around in very ugly, uninspired suits fighting Space Pirates that don’t really look like Space Pirates (to me, at least).
B) The other issues I mentioned before. It’s great for a spin-off series, just don’t say Metroid is better that way, because it would be like saying all future Zelda games should be handheld and controlled with the stylus…it wouldn’t feel like Zelda, and you’d start to miss the kind of feeling that could be felt when you directly controlled Link’s movements using buttons. That is sort of how I feel about the Prime series being perceived as having had taken the series to the next level. It didn’t really take it to the next level–it took it to a completely different arena, which is why I don’t like to consider any of them to be the true heir to the Yokoi Metroid legacy/
i do love myself some team ninja- ninja gaiden black was a treat. wonder if they’ll scale back the difficulty for the wii audience… hope not. this could be a killer hardcore game.
Looks really good. I might have to play the SNES Metroid again…
Ok let’s break bread over an energy tank and call it a night.
I’m so hyped about this. I am so glad they are making it an actual action title instead of a “let’s-spend-2-hours-opening-a-door-and-backtracking” game.
this is what Metroid needs to be popular again. Ditch the slow, confusing, meandering and archaic gameplay for real action.
It’s before Fusion (unless it’s a flashback scene) because Malkovich is dead before Fusion began. This game could tell us how Malkovich died and how Samus first met him.
OH MY GOD YES
…hrrmm…… ok, so I was often wondering where they could take Samus next in terms of gameplay, and boy is this a great answer. With Team Ninja at the helm and Nintendo’s finest looking over their shoulder… this really has the potential to be the next Super Metroid in terms of game quality, a system defining game.
@ Poochy:
How dare you talk about Metroid Fusion to ME! I played through it and beat it FOUR TIMES. I am happy about any Metroid game.
And if you notice, Samus can move at walking speed by a light tilt of the Control Stick, and runs with a full tilt.
The Speed Boost returns to Prime as the Boost Ball.
And honestly, the Prime series was frickin’ incredible. The only problem I had was Samus couldn’t grip ledges. The things you say were problems, couldn’t be done in 3-D first person, except for maybe the crouching. And I want this fucking game!!
And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.
Wow, Wasn’t expecting this.
The original game play is returning and the first Metroid game i played was Prime 1 and i have played all the metroid games before and after that. The Metroid games rock.
That preview had a lot of action and there are voices, ……I Want this!!!
I say:
all metroid games rock; wether they are FPP, clasic 2D, or 2.5D PERIOD.
@ Lite:
The things you say were problems, couldn’t be done in 3-D first person, except for maybe the crouching.
And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.
Umm….yeah, I’ve sort of been saying that since the first comment!
I honest don’t care whether you like the 2D or 3D Metroid games more, I’m just calling the Prime games flawed Metroid experience, no matter how fun they may be, because it’s impossible to capture the kind of movement experienced in Metroids 1-4 in a first-person game. But hand the series over to an inexperienced bunch of redneck American game developers and of course they’ll want to make it a first person game. You ever play Jet Force Gemini? It was a nice little third-person shooter made by Rare for the Nintendo 64. That, to me, played more like a 3D Metroid game should than the Prime series.
Metroid does rock all around, but it rocks a lot more when it is made by experienced Japanese developers who are most likely given access to character bibles, reference sheets, etc., without having to have middlemen translated messages to and from Nintendo Co. Ltd for them.
I like my Metroid done right, and it doesn’t get more right then 2D action made in Nintendo’s own country.
“Poochy says…
June 3rd, 2009 at 1:05 am
Metroid does rock all around, but it rocks a lot more when it is made by experienced Japanese developers who are most likely given access to character bibles, reference sheets, etc., without having to have middlemen translated messages to and from Nintendo Co. Ltd for them.
I like my Metroid done right, and it doesn’t get more right then 2D action made in Nintendo’s own country.”
*snickers, gives applause*
So true it’s funny as hell! But the bit below makes no sense.
“Give Metroid Prime a 2D perspective and you have a slower, floaty-movement Samus who can’t do aerial somersaults, duck, run, or any of her defining movements other than basic shooting and morph ball mode.” -Poochy
“And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.”- Lite
“Umm….yeah, I’ve sort of been saying that since the first comment!” -Poochy
@ Lite:
I see what you’re saying, but this comment:
“And if they translated Prime into 2-D, the speedboosting, the Shinesparking, the walljumping, the ledgegrabbing, the crouching, and the running Samus Aran you love would come back.â€
Makes it sound as if you mean to say those things would come back automatically, as if they are already present in some 3D form. I meant if you took the Prime series as-is and put it into 2D Samus wouldn’t move around with the gymnastic agility of the other 2D Metroid games. I mean imagine Samus, the way the character walks in Prime, walking and jumping that way in 2D. It wouldn’t be pretty: for one thing, she’d be a bit slower (I still doesn’t consider that running Metroid Prime) than in Super Metroid, certainly a lot slower than in Metroid: Zero Mission (which is supposed to take place immediately before Metroid Prime), and she wouldn’t being doing aerial somersaults. In fact, Samus doesn’t even really buckle her knees or crouch or anything before jumping in Prime, she just jumps point blank as if jumping that high is easy. Not to say that’s a mistake Retro Studios made, just a limitation of the first-person camera angle.
Did anyone realize that “Other M” is an anagram of “Mother”?
As in “Mother Brain”?
Just something to tease people out there…
Also, when it shows 2010 at the end of the trailer, the missiles/super missiles above read “3 25″. Am I overanalyzing, or could be Nintendo hinting at a potential release date for the game?
But… but… Samus isn’t supposed to talk! WTF!? I got a little annoyed at SSBB for making her talk and now this? It’s like making Kirby or Link speak a full sentence, it’s just not right!
Out of all the new Gametrailers for the Wii this title gets the most comments. No Doubt that Metriod Rocks.
I was completely surprised by this new game and I really hope the overanalyzing pays off for a March 25 2010 release. I really dont care what style of gameplay goes into a Metriod game, I still love the series and have played all of them to date. I am also currently excited for Metriod Trilogy for the Wii. It will be fun to play the first two from Gamecube with the Wii controls and the revised HD support. I hope they will put some additional goodies in this as well
@droop4
I say:
all metroid games rock; wether they are FPP, clasic 2D, or 2.5D PERIOD.
RIGHT ON BRO!
@Aaron
You mean revised 480p widescreen support, not the HD that the Wii SHOULD HAVE had.
@ Poochy
Hey buddy, calm down. You’re lambasting the Prime series because it doesn’t do things that you could previously do in the series. Let’s get this straight. What you’re really comparing the Prime games to is Super Metroid. If you are a true Metroid fan, you’d know that that is the only game that came BEFORE the Primes that had any of what you’re talking about. Fusion was released side by side with Prime. So, lets see, the original Metroid, you couldn’t crouch or run and you could only shoot straight up and in front of you. Wow, thats so much better than the Prime games on every level.
Metroid II, hmm, still no running, but now you can crouch! Lightyears ahead of Prime in every way.
Then we come to Metroid 3. Good game. Arguably the best Metroid game ever made, personally, Zero Mission is my favorite, but there’s no need to argue about it. The Prime’s are all frigin’ awesome, and they are undeniably Metroid games. They don’t break cannon in any way. So what if they don’t have ALL of the moves that were present in ONE game prior, the Prime games flesh out the series a heck of a lot more than that one game.
poochy should get over himself. ok mister one up’s man. you are the biggest metroid fan out there and know exactly what everyone wants or needs in a metroid game. you are smarter than nintendo and the game developers and your metroid cartridges and discs were the first off the assembly line signed by shiggy himself. you’re the best fan ever and you’re right metroid prime sucks and they should write you an apology and give you first hands on when this comes out because this is a real metroid title because you say so.
@ Joe
So what if they don’t have ALL of the moves that were present in ONE game prior, the Prime games flesh out the series a heck of a lot more than that one game.
You’re misunderstanding what I wrote. It’s not that they took away all the moves….the problem is Samus’ movement itself is nothing like the 2D games. 3D Mario, 3D Link, and 3D Sonic all move like their 2D counterparts, which is why the initial 3D outings for those characters were successful. In fact, in the case of Mario and Sonic they actually added to these character’s move sets.
OK, I get it, you’re a huge Prime fan. But saying moves don’t matter and that the Prime games feel just as much like Metroid is silly. Movement DOES matter in a video game; I’m sure you could ask any developer that and they’ll agree with me. There is a sense of agile movement that is impossible to express in bland, generic 1st person 3D, which is why Retro Studios should have made the games 3rd person.
@ Lord Toker:
poochy should get over himself. ok mister one up’s man. you are the biggest metroid fan out there and know exactly what everyone wants or needs in a metroid game. you are smarter than nintendo and the game developers and your metroid cartridges and discs were the first off the assembly line signed by shiggy himself. you’re the best fan ever and you’re right metroid prime sucks and they should write you an apology and give you first hands on when this comes out because this is a real metroid title because you say so.
Weak. This just goes to show that you didn’t really any of my posts.
It’s easy to go to to anyone with a dissenting viewpoint and say they need to get over themselves, but if you actually used your brain like the rest of these people have to try to understand where I’m coming from maybe you wouldn’t come off sounding like such as a douchebag.
Well at least we all like Metroid enough to keep commenting on it.
I hope for many more Metroid games in both 2d and 3d. I will buy each and every one.
*looks up*
My God…what have I created…
Look everybody. Poochy there was just trying to say to me that removing all the things Samus is famous for from the Prime games made it a little less…Metroid for him, although he doesn’t deny that the games were in fact good. I was just saying that she CAN RUN! And Boost. And I understand where he’s coming from.
Personally, though, I have an equal amount of fun playing Prime Hunters and Fusion.
@ Lite:
Thanks for clearing that up for everybody!
Check out this awesome little Metroid Other M trailer with speculative spoilers. You’ve been warned.
http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/metroid-other-m-f-by-f/319769?playlist=featured
@ poochy
your first post makes you sound like a douche yourself.
“The Prime series blows, first-person shooters generally suck, and this rocks. Period. This is exactly how Metroid should have been done on the Gamecube back in 2002. 3D, and with all the moves from Super Metroid intact. Imagine that! A Metroid game that doesn’t borrow heavily from cliched first-person shooters, AND also manages to include speed boosting!”
if that’s not inviting confrontation i don’t know what is. obviously my sarcastic tone hit a nerve with you as it pointed out that you have your opinion and others have theirs, but you come off condescending to everyone else who may have enjoyed the series. you are not right because you’ve decided to write a bunch of drivel that backs up your opinion and no one else’s point of view matters to you. so why should i care what you think, so like i said you’re a mister one up’s man. have a good day