I can’t wait to replay Metroid Prime on Wii
Saturday, February 28th, 2009 at 5:53pm by Blake
Watching the comparison video of Metroid Prime on GameCube versus Wii got me excited to play it again. I prefer the controls of Metroid Prime 3 to the original, but I like the story and level progression of the original over 3, so I’m pretty excited for the new play control version to come to the States. Anyone else?
[Thanks, KillerHeroes]
February 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Heh, it’s funny that the game I’m most looking forward to is a port of a game that I already have and have already played multiple times. I know I’m in the minority here, but I’m actually looking forward to Echoes even more than Metroid Prime, and I hope that more people will give Echoes a chance this time around.
February 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I absolutely LOVED the original Prime game, just last generation. However,no, I am not excited in the least.
And I also love replaying older games from time to time, but not ones from only last generation. I prefer replaying games from older machines not ones that are relatively recent.
As I have said earlier, there are so many new games out on current hardware that I wont be bothering repurchasing gamecube titles that I already purchased , now with added on motion controls. Even games as great as prime, and the game IS great.
The colors seem more vibrant on the Wii and the motion control will be great I am sure for those that don’t already own this classic gamecube game.
People who did not buy this exact game, minus the motion control, will love it I am sure.
February 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
bah- that’s just looks. you’re playing the wrong system if you really think graphics should matter.
ok seriously though, MP rocked and it’s cool to see it brought to a new audience. it’s really a different experience with wii controls, i think it will be much better. hopefully this isn’t taking away from non-remake development, though- i have a preference for non remakes.
also, so last time i felt MP wasn’t really a fps. it was more of an adventure, and the lock on feature really set it further apart from shooters- where it is the act of aiming that really defines it.
so with the new controls will it be possible to change genre? and have the player do more aiming with less hadholding?
February 28th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Since when can the Wii do 720p? I thought it was 480p. Either way, that does look much better.
Also I have found a remarkable difference in how the Wii can look on various TVs. It looks better on my friend’s CRT than my HD LCD for example. Oh well.
February 28th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I have the original, so I will pass on this. If you didn’t get the original, I’d get this one, but otherwise not much here to excite me.
February 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I have the original, and it sucked. No speed boost, screw attack, wall jump, kneeling, running, or space jump. If it was a 2D game people would have been all over Retro for not including these things, but since it’s a 3D first-person ADVENTURE (yeah, right) every hardcore gamer in the world was ready on their knees to kiss Retro’s ass and proclaim it to be the best Metroid since Super Metroid. Also, I find it takes away from the story (which is told through Chozo tablets and computer terminals) when you have to hold down the R button every time to want to read something (a flaw they didn’t see fit to fix in Metroid Prime 2). All in all, the Metroid Prime games are terribly overrated—as Metroid games. They bring a cold American sensibility to a series that, as appealing to American gamers as it may be, always had a Japanese touch or two.
February 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I think the two games will be identical graphically. I can’t really make a fair impression from this comparison video unless we know this video was being captured from the same device. From the video it looks like the captured GameCube footage has it’s gamma set too high and the color too low (and the video is overly compressed, lots of artifacts). The Wii footage pictures settings seem to be calibrated well and the video compression doesn’t seem as bad as the Gamecube footage.
@Wii Wii I agree about replaying games from the previous generation. I think it’s too soon to get nostalgic about it. I don’t have any need to go back and play Halo 1 or 2 from the original Xbox, but 10 years from now it’ll be fun to replay the game and compare it with the current generation. I’m assuming Nintendo is rereleasing these GC games in hopes to get people who never played the games before to buy them. If you own MP or Pikmin for the GC, I don’t think it’s worth repurchasing them.
February 28th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
“As I have said earlier, there are so many new games out on current hardware that I wont be bothering repurchasing gamecube titles that I already purchased.”
Well said, Wii Wii. I have too many new games to worry about replaying Metroid Prime again. I love revisiting older games from my collection, but it’s never a priority over playing new ones first.
That said, it was easily the GameCube’s best game, in my opinion, and one of the best Nintendo games I’ve ever played. I’m glad the Wii audience that missed out on the original will have a chance to experience it.
February 28th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Do have to say that the controls (from hands-on around the internet) seem to be more polished (as is the case for MP3) and from THIS video, the graphics on the Wii DO loke waaaaaaay better.
Will have to give it some tought since I sold MP and MP2 two years ago but this would make it almost a brand new game.
March 1st, 2009 at 12:48 am
Its not 720p. The Wii doesnt output that resolution.
This game looks exciting. I loved the original. I always hated the controls on the older version, this looks worthwhile.
March 1st, 2009 at 1:15 am
Poochy Poochy Poochy…
Please! I guess there always has to be one hater in the bunch. I have never heard anyone blast Metroid Prime like that. Ouch!
March 1st, 2009 at 1:49 am
I’m not trying to Wii hate or anything but I find it hilarious that a game I’m looking forward to is a gamecube port.
I would buy this to blow a few cobwebs off the blue slot if it was relatively cheap (say $20). Even though I’ve already beaten this game many many times before…
March 1st, 2009 at 1:56 am
I’m looking forward to this game much more after seeing the WIImote controls in action. I was given a copy of Metroid Prime, but I think I’ll way to play it until this comes out. Very cool.
March 1st, 2009 at 3:52 am
“every hardcore gamer in the world was ready on their knees to kiss Retro’s ass and proclaim it to be the best Metroid since Super Metroid.”
maybe I am just ruining a very (VERY) subtle joke on Poochy’s part, but I feel compelled to clarify that no other games came out between Super and Prime. So as long as Prime is/was considered better than the original and Metroid II, then by _default_ it would be “the best [one] since Super Metroid.”
Which doesn’t even touch upon the facts that without the terminal extracts there is little more story than in the other Metroid games, or that quibbling about the lack of a specific move set stinks of fanatical fanboyism.
Now, if you want to say that the change from 2D to 3D, or the differences in pacing ruined the Metroid flavor, okay, we can run with those. But come on, if I were to say, “Wah, Super Metroid took out the Spider Ball in Metroid II, therefore Super Metroid is shite,” I would be (rightfully) ridiculed.
March 1st, 2009 at 9:34 am
@ Soup: It’s not that they took out one specific move, but a whole slew of moves that make Metroid what it is. And I really think that people who think that Metroid Prime was a perfect, or even near-perfect conversion of a classic franchise into 3D need to get their heads examined. 2D Metroid is as much a jumping game as it is a shooting game—Samus’ moves are aerobic and nimble, qualities that none of the Prime games managed to capture. Wall-jumping is greatly underused, and speed boost impossible (since you can’t really run, anyway).
I don’t care if you’ve never heard anyone else complain about the series in the way I do. The people who don’t like the Prime series just aren’t as vocal about it as those who do (and those who do, I honestly think most of them just got aboard the “Super Metroid was the greatest game ever!” bandwagon and really don’t remember shit about the old series anyway).
@ Derek:
“That said, it was easily the GameCube’s best game, in my opinion,”
Easily? Then you must have somehow missed out on Wind Waker, Resident Evil 4, and Super Mario Sunshine.
“and one of the best Nintendo games I’ve ever played. I’m glad the Wii audience that missed out on the original will have a chance to experience it.”
It’s not a Nintendo game. It’s a made-in-the-USA shitty attempt at turning Metroid into a FPS. Real Metroid games aren’t made by ex-Turok developers, they’re made by people with the last name Sakamoto, Kanoh, and Kiyatake. Fanatical? No. Just old-school. Unlike you, I know what a Metroid game should make you feel when you play it. There is no magic in Metroid, which is fine for people who already play loads of shallow, emotionless shooters on XBox Live. Oh, but what am I saying, you write for a Nintendo blog! You know ALL ABOUT Nintendo, of course…
March 1st, 2009 at 9:37 am
“There is no magic in Metroid Prime”
Fixed.
Gunpei Yoko would not have turned Metroid into the beast it is today. He wouldn’t have catered to the FPS crowd, the same crowd that actually bought MP: Hunters, and who complained about Zero-Suit Samus looking cartoonier in Metroid Prime 2 and 3 (God forbid the Japanese have their own way with their franchise and make Samus look—*gasp*—anime!).
March 1st, 2009 at 9:55 am
I should clarify: I don’t think that Metroid Prime is bad game. I think it is a great game. I have fond memories of it, I do.
But it SUCKS AS A METROID GAME.
Secret passages: Very, very few.
Wall-jumping: No, and the sequels don’t really pull it off very well either.
Ducking: In every game since Metroid 2, Samus could kneel and shoot.
Here she cannot.
Somersaults: There are no somersaults: this is a FPS, foo’!
Freezing enemies to use them as platforms: Not that I can remember.
Bomb jumping: Bomb jumping is a joke in Metroid Prime. It gets you nowhere.
Spider Ball: Crippled. You can only use it when the developers decide you can use it, which really isn’t often enough.
Space Jump: Crippled. Now you can double-jump instead of, you know, jumping for infinity.
Screw Attack: What? Implement Samus’ most famous move? Are you crazy?
Chozo Statues: This was a huge deal-breaker for me. THERE ARE NO ITEM-HOLDING CHOZO STATUES IN METROID PRIME, EVEN THOUGH SAMUS LANDS IN A FUCKING CHOZO COLONY.
To top it all off, the ending sucks. Completely devoid of emotion, Samus stares blankly at the Chozo Temple as it burns to the ground, not a single tear falling from her eye. Super Metroid, a game that was released nearly a decade earlier, moved me throughout it’s entire story more than that ending did. This is typical of American developers as they are great at creating powerhouse games full of immersive, detailed environments, but when it comes to rendering believable characters that you can actually feel for they are utterly inept.
The people who are reading this thinking I’m a “fanatic” are probably right; I see that as a good thing. I’m well-acquainted with the Metroid games. Even though these seem like such small, nitpicky things to some of you, they are in fact staples of the Metroid series. I can only hope that Nintendo never leaves one of it’s own franchises in the hands of douchebag, FPS-lovin’ American developers ever again; they have a tendency to screw a good thing up (see Silent Hill: Homecoming).
March 1st, 2009 at 9:59 am
If I didn’t already own the original, then this would be a definite buy, but I can’t really justify spending more than 20 dollars on a game I already have (even if the controls and graphics are better).
Now, Super Mario Tennis, on the other hand, will be a definite buy since I don’t already have a GC copy of it.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:03 am
Wow Poochy. You are insane. ‘Nuff said.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:12 am
…ESPECIALLY if you think that Super Mario Sunshine had ANY of your aforementioned “magic” in it that you seem to think Prime was lacking.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:13 am
I’ll say this much, it looks like an awesome game re-done for a lot of people who have probably never played it.
I’m not going to play it, at least for a while. There are just so many games coming along for Wii that I want / need to play. When there was that year between the Cube and Wii, I really was ready for a new console. I felt like I had played through everything the Cube had to offer (that I was interested in) and it was time to move on. Judgining by the Wii and DS games that came out in 2008 that I haven’t played plus the ones coming in 2009, I’m basically going to be all set with my two current systems well into 2014!
March 1st, 2009 at 10:58 am
“Wow Poochy. You are insane. ‘Nuff said.”
And you’re stupid and lazy to simply call me crazy rather than address any of the valid problems I mentioned that Metroid Prime has. Don’t get offended now; I didn’t call Metroid Prime a bad game, just a weak Metroid game. People complained about the linearity of Metroid Fusion; but as Samus Aran I’d take orders from a CO any day if the gameplay at least felt like Metroid.
If I’m insane, then what about TJ Rappel, the founder of the most old-skool Metroid fan-site there is, Metroid Database? He gave up circa 2005 because he couldn’t bring himself to finish Metroid Prime 2. He said it just didn’t feel like Metroid anymore. Now here is the one of the most hardcore Metroid fans on the web, and founder of the first, if not one of the first, websites devoted solely to the Metroid series. But he didn’t like where Retro was taking the series—he loved the handheld games, mind you, but he never even got past Metroid Prime 2. Let me ask you something, Rabbitduck, when did YOU become a Metroid fan? Did you join in at Metroid Prime? Do you vaguely recall playing Super Metroid in the mid-90’s, but not really beating the NES and Gameboy game? If your answer is yes to any of those questions, then you really have no right to criticize me for calling the Prime series what it truly is—a pretty fun Metroid-themed FPS (as opposed to a really fun first-person Metroid game).
March 1st, 2009 at 11:01 am
To be honest, I haven’t played Metroid Prime 3. But judging from what this guy says about it, I don’t think I want to:
http://yellow5.us/journal/review_metroid_prime_3_corruption/
March 1st, 2009 at 11:03 am
Real Metroid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67qytrErmaE
Metroid-flavored bullshit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OzotViX-Hg
March 1st, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Now THAT’S the Poochy I know.
March 1st, 2009 at 3:36 pm
I have nothing to add to this debate as I’ve never played a Metroid game. Am I the only one?
March 1st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Actually, my first Metroid Game was Metroid II for the Game Boy. I loved it when I was a kid, and it took me freaking forever to beat. Then I played through Super Metroid when I borrowed it from a friend, Then the original Metroid on the GBA original NES series shortly before Prime came out, and lastly Metroid Prime. I love the Metroid series, so I don’t necessarily think you can call me out on not being a “true” fan of the Metroid series. But I just find your adamant attitude against the Metroid Prime series in uncalled for and incorrect. I find it to be quite a faithful transition from the previous games, and definitely one they put a lot of work into. Every aspect of Prime is just as endearing to me as the old games. I can analyze all of your points and state where I disagree if I wanted to spend the time on it, suffice to say that I found the music, atmosphere, puzzles, quests, and rendition of the Prime series to be in no way detrimental to Metroid’s progression.
March 1st, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I like the color correction they did.
March 1st, 2009 at 10:13 pm
I’m with DMNT on this one. I’ll buy it at $19.99. But Id rather by a compilation. MP and MP2 on 1 disc for $30-$40.
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:31 am
Well I want MP2 since I only rented it on the Gamecube, and I was just waiting for the possible remake; glad that waiting paid off. So, will I get MP1 on the Wii as well to just have ALL of them for the Wii? Maybe, but I can wait and get the first later especially I played that one a lot compare to a one-run play through with MP2.
March 2nd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
“Do have to say that the controls (from hands-on around the internet) seem to be more polished (as is the case for MP3) and from THIS video, the graphics on the Wii DO loke waaaaaaay better.”
We must be looking at different videos because the visuals on the Wii version look almost identical to the GC version in this video. Any improvements are quite minimal. It’s not like we’re getting an Resident Evil remake here.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
i’ve been playing metroid from the beginning and don’t consider super metroid the best one of all time nor do i consider the moves from that version the outline for a good metroid game. i’ve played all of them since the nes, gameboy, snes, gamecube, gameboy advance, and wii and liked each one. they all have had their own style and each always made me feel like i’m playing a metroid title. this game is an excellent choice for anybody who never had the chance to play it the first time around and a beautiful transition from 2d to 3d.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I purchased RE4 for the gamecube, loved it, but bought it again for the Wii. The Wii version is the only one I play now, and I’m gunna ebay the GCN version, $.99, going once…
I think we will see the same pattern with Metroid Prime 1 and 2. It’s about getting the maximum enjoyment out of your favorite games.
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Poochy… I recently heard that Metroid Prime was the first Metroid game developed for 3-D and it was a learning curve at that point. That’s why they improved with Echoes and made Corruption awesome. I am proud to say I cleared all four Primes 100% with the best endings!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Metroid Prime Hunters= awesomeness. Never forget, or I will find you.
(I…won’t do anything. I’ll just…find you…I think.)
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 am
I don’t get the Prime haters… Nintendo tried for years to bring the franchise into the next generation and just couldn’t do it. Retro came along and came up with a way to make it stand proudly with the best games of the generation, not feel retro but still have the tone of the classic games. Prime 1 gave you a huge world to explore and a reasonable amount of freedom to do so (but it still guided you along a proper story). There were no true cutscenes, no story other than what you learned yourself through the scan visor. That was a great mechanic. If you didn’t find any secret passages, you didn’t play the game right. There was stuff hidden in every nook and cranny of that game. The atmosphere and the lore of the world was fantastic and I really felt I was part of a living breathing world, which the old games never did. They made exceptions to deliver the FPS element (spin jump just doesn’t work in an fps, and bomb jumping was intentionally nerfed because it would have been too powerful… same with spider ball, the programmers can’t plan for a player who can go dang near anywhere on the map).
If you’re devout 2D Metroid fan, then sure it would be a disappointment, but that’s what they made Fusion and Zero for. Those were great games and utilized the hardware they were on perfectly. I was disappointed with Hunters because I didn’t have that sense of freedom. I’d have been happier with a DS caliber side scroller in that case. But Prime was the bees knees for me. 2 was too dark, difficult, and linear for me. I got maybe halfway through and got stuck. Prime 3 was great. It broke unfortunately in many ways from the formula I loved and became much more Halo-esque… but toward the end when I found the map of all the hidden power ups and I ventured the ‘verse to find them I was a happy happy camper. I hope Prime 1 Wii takes what I see in this new version to the max. I love the graphical enhancements and the controls, but I want the achievements and difficulty levels that Corruption offered as well.
March 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 am
Also… a little annoyed I gotta buy the game all over again, but so far I’m impressed enough to shell out $20 (maybe $30 but hell if I’ll spend $40 or more… but $20 is the number I’m hearing tossed around).
Lotsa Wii-makes I’ll be happy to see, though in my wildest dreams a Twilight Princess engine remake of Ocarina of Time and Majora’s Mask (an underrated game, maybe a remake could fix some of its quirks) would make me mess myself a little. Just sayin’.
March 3rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
manosdvd, you said a lot of the things I was thinking. One comment I’d like to add is that the only thing that kept me happy with the odd formula for MP3 was that I like to think of Samus as running around accepting different missions with different situations, not always solo, and perhaps for some missions she works closely with the Galactic Federation. It makes sense storyline-wise, so they may as well tell those stories too.