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		<title>By: TRichter</title>
		<link>http://www.infendo.com/gamers-dont-want-honest-reviews-they-want-fanfare/comment-page-1/#comment-34875</link>
		<dc:creator>TRichter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 17:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we put a moratorium on characters named Kane/Cane/Cain/Kain/etc.? Yes, we get it, the 13-17 year old crowd thinks it&#039;s a cool name, but enough already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we put a moratorium on characters named Kane/Cane/Cain/Kain/etc.? Yes, we get it, the 13-17 year old crowd thinks it&#8217;s a cool name, but enough already.</p>
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		<title>By: waltermh</title>
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		<dc:creator>waltermh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 22:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just one point. you are supposed to take review scores seriously. otherwise they serve no purpose.
if you say you will never do another review again, nor will talk about reviews from other sites then thats fine.
but while reviews may have different uses to different people, one of the original uses was to guage where your money should go.
maybe you dont take budgets and buying decisions seriously, but some people may have an interest in a dozen games but they can only afford 1 or 2, so they read the reviews to see what is worth there money.

you can think that nobody should buy based on reviews, but then honestly, reviews altogether stop serving a practical purpose, score or no score.
then we are also left renting, which can be expensive itself, especially if you got a game that wasnt even worth renting, or buying to find out whats up, and losing out on resale.

reviews hopefully lessen your losses.

for me, money is serious business, and therefore reviews are serious business. whether they are written online or in print.

ps: i dont go by reviews because i always know what i like, and am picky about what i buy, but i can completely understand the use of reviews, and know people that dont have my time or internet savvy/time to keep up with the nuances of every game that looks interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just one point. you are supposed to take review scores seriously. otherwise they serve no purpose.<br />
if you say you will never do another review again, nor will talk about reviews from other sites then thats fine.<br />
but while reviews may have different uses to different people, one of the original uses was to guage where your money should go.<br />
maybe you dont take budgets and buying decisions seriously, but some people may have an interest in a dozen games but they can only afford 1 or 2, so they read the reviews to see what is worth there money.</p>
<p>you can think that nobody should buy based on reviews, but then honestly, reviews altogether stop serving a practical purpose, score or no score.<br />
then we are also left renting, which can be expensive itself, especially if you got a game that wasnt even worth renting, or buying to find out whats up, and losing out on resale.</p>
<p>reviews hopefully lessen your losses.</p>
<p>for me, money is serious business, and therefore reviews are serious business. whether they are written online or in print.</p>
<p>ps: i dont go by reviews because i always know what i like, and am picky about what i buy, but i can completely understand the use of reviews, and know people that dont have my time or internet savvy/time to keep up with the nuances of every game that looks interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Soup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DonWii brings up an excellent point. User-generated scores can&#039;t really be more accurate because they fall prey to their own problems of inflated (or deflated) scores due to fanboy behavior. Should every person creating a score be fair and balanced? Yes. Does the practice match the theory? Because of the very nature of the enthusiast, No, it does not.

As for soliciting reviews from people you know and trust? This absolutely works, but if a person or entity becomes popular well known for being a trusted reviewer, it is only a matter of time before the establishment begins to court them. Is the only answer to maintaining credibility a complete rejection of corporate sponsorship? It&#039;s easy to say YES, but can I ask a news entity to throw away the most powerful and viable way to pay for operating expenses? (granted, this argument is more traditional-news-focused, like newspapers, magazines and television).

Whatever you guys think of &quot;professional review sites&quot; (professional in that they review games in order to make a living), the wall between industry and observers is an important one and should be fought for. Our instinct as intelligent consumers is to dismiss both parties outright, but to do so invites further transgressions and ultimately a breaking down between critics and corporations. It is an uphill battle to increase (or even just maintain) the autonomy and authority of journalists, but it is vitally important that we fight for it.

After all, how long until the corporations dictate the tone/content of ALL the websites we visit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DonWii brings up an excellent point. User-generated scores can&#8217;t really be more accurate because they fall prey to their own problems of inflated (or deflated) scores due to fanboy behavior. Should every person creating a score be fair and balanced? Yes. Does the practice match the theory? Because of the very nature of the enthusiast, No, it does not.</p>
<p>As for soliciting reviews from people you know and trust? This absolutely works, but if a person or entity becomes popular well known for being a trusted reviewer, it is only a matter of time before the establishment begins to court them. Is the only answer to maintaining credibility a complete rejection of corporate sponsorship? It&#8217;s easy to say YES, but can I ask a news entity to throw away the most powerful and viable way to pay for operating expenses? (granted, this argument is more traditional-news-focused, like newspapers, magazines and television).</p>
<p>Whatever you guys think of &#8220;professional review sites&#8221; (professional in that they review games in order to make a living), the wall between industry and observers is an important one and should be fought for. Our instinct as intelligent consumers is to dismiss both parties outright, but to do so invites further transgressions and ultimately a breaking down between critics and corporations. It is an uphill battle to increase (or even just maintain) the autonomy and authority of journalists, but it is vitally important that we fight for it.</p>
<p>After all, how long until the corporations dictate the tone/content of ALL the websites we visit?</p>
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		<title>By: sir jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>sir jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This happens a lot in the writing world. I have had a lot of my articles pulled for not being &quot;positive&quot;. It&#039;s a sad state in the review industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This happens a lot in the writing world. I have had a lot of my articles pulled for not being &#8220;positive&#8221;. It&#8217;s a sad state in the review industry.</p>
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		<title>By: InvisibleMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>InvisibleMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see too many over-the-top passionate criticism of both professional critic and user opinions here, and I don&#039;t think they are justified.

It is easy to see why there is a disparity between the average critic rankings and the users&#039; rankings in most games:  Professional critics come from a background of having played games all their lives, so they know when a new game is derivative or just a small improvement on an old formula, plus they tend to prefer tougher games that challenge their experience.  Casual gamers, even those of us who have been gaming for ten years or so, have not experienced all these games, so we tend to find fascinating some games that improve on an old formula.

I think most critics are fair, but you must take into account that a game that might seem derivative for them could be the exact thing you are looking for as a relatively new gamer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see too many over-the-top passionate criticism of both professional critic and user opinions here, and I don&#8217;t think they are justified.</p>
<p>It is easy to see why there is a disparity between the average critic rankings and the users&#8217; rankings in most games:  Professional critics come from a background of having played games all their lives, so they know when a new game is derivative or just a small improvement on an old formula, plus they tend to prefer tougher games that challenge their experience.  Casual gamers, even those of us who have been gaming for ten years or so, have not experienced all these games, so we tend to find fascinating some games that improve on an old formula.</p>
<p>I think most critics are fair, but you must take into account that a game that might seem derivative for them could be the exact thing you are looking for as a relatively new gamer.</p>
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		<title>By: bOB</title>
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		<dc:creator>bOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DonWii yes user reviews are more fan driven but generally if you eliminate the perfect 10s and perfect 1s and look at several different opinions you will get an accurate image of the game before you buy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DonWii yes user reviews are more fan driven but generally if you eliminate the perfect 10s and perfect 1s and look at several different opinions you will get an accurate image of the game before you buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gerstmann had an opinion... seems like this is dangerous nowadays?</description>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on FANBOY OWNERSHIP:

If Jeff is for sure let go, than I&#039;m bummed.  I shouldn&#039;t care if he reviews something i like with a lower score - because I can retain my own opinion and realize that&#039;s his separate opinion.  The ownership that some people have over top-tear franchiss is nuts, and to the point where you&#039;d wonder if the players feel they were part of the development of the game from the beginning. I&#039;ll always be Mario fanboy and it pleases me to know the game has been reviewed highly, but whether it is or isn&#039;t, or is sold or isn&#039;t, it bears nothing to do with the end experience with the game in my with friends and family.

on CRITICAL OBJECTIVITY:
Gerstman has always been clear about the differences of the advertising on their site vs. the critical objectivity.  He&#039;s been an advocate for reviewers being honest and clear that if they play a game that&#039;s sub-par, than they&#039;ll review it that way.  Maybe he was the only one brave enough to talk about that on his podcasts, but it&#039;s a loss if that&#039;s the reason he may be gone from the gamespot staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on FANBOY OWNERSHIP:</p>
<p>If Jeff is for sure let go, than I&#8217;m bummed.  I shouldn&#8217;t care if he reviews something i like with a lower score &#8211; because I can retain my own opinion and realize that&#8217;s his separate opinion.  The ownership that some people have over top-tear franchiss is nuts, and to the point where you&#8217;d wonder if the players feel they were part of the development of the game from the beginning. I&#8217;ll always be Mario fanboy and it pleases me to know the game has been reviewed highly, but whether it is or isn&#8217;t, or is sold or isn&#8217;t, it bears nothing to do with the end experience with the game in my with friends and family.</p>
<p>on CRITICAL OBJECTIVITY:<br />
Gerstman has always been clear about the differences of the advertising on their site vs. the critical objectivity.  He&#8217;s been an advocate for reviewers being honest and clear that if they play a game that&#8217;s sub-par, than they&#8217;ll review it that way.  Maybe he was the only one brave enough to talk about that on his podcasts, but it&#8217;s a loss if that&#8217;s the reason he may be gone from the gamespot staff.</p>
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		<title>By: DonWii</title>
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		<dc:creator>DonWii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^Except user scores are also fanboy driven.

On Metacritic, I saw a review(later taken out) that gave the game a 1/10.

The reason? Easy, repetitive game.

I&#039;m no reviewer, but a 1/10 usually depicts an unplayable game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^Except user scores are also fanboy driven.</p>
<p>On Metacritic, I saw a review(later taken out) that gave the game a 1/10.</p>
<p>The reason? Easy, repetitive game.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no reviewer, but a 1/10 usually depicts an unplayable game.</p>
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		<title>By: A Wider Net &#187; Marketing Technology &#187; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Case for Peer Recommendations</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Wider Net &#187; Marketing Technology &#187; &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Another Case for Peer Recommendations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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