Comments on: Do we need a Revolution?

By: Lite

Lite — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:29:01 +0000

DUDE. No one realizes this article came out before the Wii was called the Wii. If they do, they’re acting like they’re not.

By: JewWario

JewWario — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:44:24 +0000

@ Blue: Understood. Well said.

@ Lord Toker: But the Famicom in Japan did the exact same thing as the Atari did and it suffered none of the loss. That’s why Akumajo Densetsu (Castlevania III) has such incredible sound in the Japanese cart while here in the US they got bup-kiss. It was because companies were allowed to be innovative. Then again, it might be an American thing: control.

@ gojiguy: Had a discussion about this very thing last night with a friend. Older games NEED to be played on something close to what the controls were like. It wouldn’t be played better on a 360 controller. NOTHING older is better on a 360 controller. Simple is the key. Just remember the 10 best controllers article.

As far as saying “how often do you have x amount of people over…” well, some people do. Not every day, but some do. I often pull out both sets of BUZZ controllers for an 8-person quiz game. It’s not every day, but it is often.

One of the Nintendo club prizes in Japan was a Super Fam controller for the GameCube so you could play your SFAM games on the Wii. It’s the most sought after peripheral for the system now. Says a lot about people who want the older-simpler controllers.

Maybe that’s why so many people are going back to old-school games: because of the simplicity and the ability to use your imaginations again and have fun.

New games are a challenge and the graphics are realistic, but people gripe all the time. Ninja Gaiden 1, 2, & 3 has similar graphics, similar gameplay, and are considered some of the best games in Nintendo history.

And they can easily be played on a sideways Wii controller.

By: gojiguy

gojiguy — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:20:20 +0000

I agree but it’s hard for games like that to survive on the Wii. Why play a traditional game on the Wii using, say, a classic controller if it would only be better if played on a 360 or PS3? What other features does the Wii have that justify a traditional game on it as opposed to any other system. Now, not saying I don’t love Smash Bros as it is on Wii (partly because the GC controller is a god among controllers) but it’s hard to expect traditional games on a system that will only detract from the experience.

The only advantages that are Wii-specific and non-waggle that I see are:

-With simple controls, up to 12 people can play simultaneously on one system (requires four GC and four Classic controllers)
-With more complex controls, 8 (four classic and four GC without sharing wii-motes)
-Faster loading times than any other system

How often can you get 8-12 people to sit down and game at once and how much would load times affect a quality game concept?

By: whitjm5

whitjm5 — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:10:29 +0000

You were 100% correct. But pointing that out just makes it look like this post’s purpose was to stroke your ego. :-/

By: aegreen

aegreen — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:21:49 +0000

Blake, I think you got your wish that Nintendo stick to traditional gaming–in fact, I would think moreso than most people anticipated and more than some people want. Few games have truely made use of the revolution of the Wiimote (and Nunchuck), and most of those have been first-party titles.

By: InvisibleMan

InvisibleMan — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:32:59 +0000

The irony of this article is that, in the end, the industry did embrace this “revolution” in the form of independently produced games that can be downloaded via Wi-Fi. There’s still a long way to go, but you can see great ideas not only on the Wii but on the 360 as well. And they rarely depend on the use of the motion-sensing wii-mote!

By: Lord Toker

Lord Toker — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:55:59 +0000

nintendo did create the console in its present form. atari was a mismash of developers all putting out low quality games that nearly killed the industry by making it a passing fad. if it wasn’t for the timing of the nes i believe we’d be playing video games in a very different way. perhaps it would have all been pc based. i also don’t consider controllers with joysticks or telephone numbers on them the modern control pad.

By: Jon

Jon — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:14:10 +0000

Funny how the sentence was formulated!

« Do we need a “Revolution”?
The short answer, yes. The long one: depends on how you define ‘we’. »

By: Blue

Blue — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:45:32 +0000

Au contraire, JewWario.

I appreciate seeing some of the things that were written in the past in order to compare them to the present and give me an insight to the future.

The article addressed a vaild fear from Nintendo faithful; and as most fears tend to be, I believe it was unfounded.

I wasn’t a ‘gamer’ before the Wii so it is nice to see the occasional look back at an industry before my time.

By: JewWario

JewWario — Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:29:20 +0000

But MacUser kinda’ has a point. It’s been 2-3 years since this article was posted. Sure it kind-of has relevance to today, but it would have been better to just have re-written it.

Old news is old news. I have been seeing a lot of re-posting here on Infendo and it makes me a bit sad. I’d like to see fresh ideas and articles. More reviews from Infendo-ites.

Even if they’re on old Nintendo games, it’d be better than old news like this. It’s a decent article, but was posted several years ago and would have been better re-written.